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Patrick Anderson <agnucius@gmail.com> May 25 12:31PM -0600 ^


 
Mark Janssen wrote:
 
> It's interesting that you conceptualize it in terms of "production":
> production has little use in and of itself (unless you define animals in
> nature as "productive").
 
Products are, of course, the 'results' or 'outputs' of production.
 
For humans, the most fundamental (cannot do without) products are food
and medicine which are primarily (and could be solely) aquired from
productive plants and animals.
 
The reason I talk about "production" is because of the importance of
these outputs. Did you eat breakfast? Will you eat lunch and dinner?
Where did those inputs come from?
 
Most production within our current system (raw Capitalism) is not done
"for product", but is ignorantly done "for profit"; and so we face
mountains of trouble caused by this misdirected effort to keep Price
above Cost which requires scarcity therefore promoting destruction and
even war.
 
The production I talk about is "for product". We cannot live without
some production, for we must consume the outputs of plants and animals
and also must repair our shelters and clean our bodies, etc.
 
We currently face a terrible but mostly unspeakable crisis in that we
do not own the Sources of these products.
 
We try to own some of these plants and animals individually, in
solitary confinement through gardening and DIY tools etc.
 
But we haven't yet discovered how to *share* Sources of Production -
leaving that to "for profit" corporations who care nothing of the
use-value of those commodities (except for their outward appearance
for the purpose of tricking us into purchasing them). Their only goal
is to keep Price above Cost.
 
We do not know how to 'scale' any "for product" organization primarily
because we have been fooled into believing Profit arises as a result
of labor, and so almost universally tend to begin with the
unquestioned false notion that the Workers should be the owners of the
Sources of Production and that Profit should be treated as their
reward.
 
It is easy to see Profit (the difference between Consumer Price and
Owner Costs) is actually a result of the Consumers' lack of ownership
using the following example:
 
Let's say a small group of olive-eaters co-buy an olive orchard for
their own good.
 
They must pay all the Costs of Production, including any Wages, but
they do not (and cannot) pay Profit because they do not *buy* the
product at the end of the season, but own it already – as a sort of
"side effect" of their ownership in the Sources of Production.
 
This is true of any and all production. Profit has nothing to do with
Work and has everything to do with Consumer dependence upon the
current Source Owners and so should be treated as an investment from
the Consumer who paid it – so he also gains the ownership needed to
protect him those who would otherwise exploit his lack of
preparedness.
 
 
Patrick Anderson
Social Sufficiency Coalition
http://SourceFreedom.BlogSpot.com