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    John Griessen <john@industromatic.com> May 23 02:35PM -0500 ^

     
    Suresh Fernando wrote:
     
    > the following presentation
    > (http://www.slideshare.net/sureshf/ecosystem-collaboration-platform2)
     
    > That my thinking is the convergence of all of this is the problem!
     
    I've been helping a local makerspace start, and have not posted here in a while,
    but saw the above and write since we have seen some odd friction in the starting group
    of people as things got going towards physical effort rather than just talk.
     
    The enDesign makerspace has been an idea in the space's leaseholder for
    a good five years and got triggered to action when some people wanting to
    start a hackerspace contacted him. The friction came from some of the
    hackerspace folk wanting to create structure and identity so the hackerspace
    group could be anywhere eventually, but the enDesign makerspace leaseholder
    was thinking of tenants that he would be final arbiter over when it comes
    to uses of building and equipment. enDesign was also thinking of types
    of use differently — mainly making, manufacturing, where the hackerspace
    folks are interested in education, events, entertainment, and only superficial
    dabbling in manufacturing.
     
    In light of what's happened, where the rules were laid down by enDesign
    about scheduling, and terms of use of equipment, (make a deal with it's owner,
    essentially), overruling the hackerspace desire for vague communal access privileges,
    infrastructure seems necessary. Without the "one person in charge" action,
    no agreement would have been reached yet, and not much would be going on
    at the space. Now, it's got 5 rooms with doors and electric wiring built since February
    and machines like CO2 lasers (two) and CNC routers are going online, and more
    on the way and discussion of coop buying more.
     
    As far as tech infrastructure for collab… we have a calendar and it's on a wiki.
    Not very developed, but inline with your ideas.
     
    Any more progress on creating your
    Ecosystem Collaboration Platform (software-service-via-subscription)?
    Whatever you create will carve out a group of people who like
    it's terms and benefits and leave the rest behind still looking.
    That's unavoidable. Some like loose structure, some like tight.
    Some like to talk 6 hours a day, some need 6 hours of aloneness per day.
     
    Collaboration across distance and not face to face is hard. I feel lucky
    to have stumbled across the group I'm describing in Austin Texas.
    We get to collaborate face to face often.
     
    Whatever you do, it needs videoconferencing working well to get people
    to try it. If it has rent it needs some instant "almost tangible benefit"
    and video is the level you should be aiming at, not just skype audio.
     
    John Griessen
     

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