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Gerry Gleason <gerryg@inbox.com> Mar 16 07:43PM -0600 ^


 
"pet projects", huh? Just kidding, and seriously, we really have to
find a different way of speaking about the competition for attention.
 
In the end, I think we build a mosaic in which each of us finds the
pieces of the work that is made for us. In a wisdom driven
organization, each finds his or her right placement, we don't command
or entice with rewards, the work is its own reward.
 
That said, some projects are not more important, but more central,
shared by more systems. Take the web, created from existing network
technology and some new protocols (http) and encodings (html and
more). Now there are more protocols and components that have become
critical to our digital citizenship, but everybody used html and
http. We realize that it is ambitious, but as with the web we don't
expect to do it alone. Once the first usable versions are
demonstrated, others can take the protocol and do other things with
it, grow the space. Metacurrency is intended to be the html and http
of currencies. Flowplace is like the first web server of
metacurrency, and for now it uses html and http to access a single
server, but the design is network based so that any number of
currency engines can be following particular circles of currency
actions (we are calling these "breaths" for now) can run the rules in
place to mirror the state of play. So you can imagine a P2P network
of RIA clients implementing the full engine for each user on a local
workstation, as well as web portals like flowplace all being able to
see and interact with the full state of the currency network.
 
This can be a platform for multi-user games just as easily as it can
support a whole range of currency systems. It's a platform for
experimentation. That's why I think this work is critical, and I
work on it as hard or harder than my "day job". I also love the
people I am working with. Techical and coding work is very hard, but
this group is very good at it, and the energy we have created when we
get a chance to work face to face is just amazing.
 
Jay has a point too about how there is a lot of overlap between
tudor's three items, so, lets talk about membranes. It is open, not
mostly open. That doesn't mean that anyone can just walk up and join
the conversation without walking some path to approach the subject
and the state of the art of the project. Think about it as if we are
boarding a vessel to travel to a new place, we have to have a crew
with the right skills and experience and ready to take on the work.
You may change crew members, and that is a process of initiation and
preparation with supervision for the challenging tasks.
 
A core design principle of metacurrency is "unenclosablility", which
is not to say that anything goes, but it is more like your point
about natural systems. I highly recommend "Into the Cool"
http://www.intothecool.com/ to think about this more deeply. Energy
is the currency of natural systems. Transforming the energy of the
sun as slowly as possible, with amazing diversities of organisms and
chemical cycles on cycles. Entropy to, the energy of information in
systems is part of this, from DNA to hormones to birdsong and human
language. Cells have cell walls and we have skin for a reason and it
takes a lot of energy to maintain them. Metacurrency membranes are
like that, maintained with intent and defended in hostile
environments.
 
Remember, these currencies are not just money. They are anything we
can formalize into rules of flow. A chess tournament, or a pickup
chess network of human and computer players. Metacurrency and
flowplace may be furthest along on the path to building systems for
OKS. I don't want to overhype it, but the work is going quickly now
and I expect great progress in the near and middle timeframes.
 
Gerry
 
 

 

"observer2.0" <savetherich@gmail.com> Mar 17 09:09AM -0700 ^


 
Metacurrency sounds like its probably the quest for an OKS. So if we
can agree on a big project to attempt, we can USE metacurrency to
motivate and create reputations for members working on the big
project. I fear if we make the big project ABOUT the metacurrency
itself, we will miss ways to improve the value flows within an OKS.
 
The beauty of achieving an OKS system is that the first instantiation
will "crystallize" other tangential projects to organize like an OKS
naturally. As extensions of ways of working and interacting within
the first OKS impact the structure of the related projects. This
means our task is actually easy:
 
find a project that is of broad interest, that is fun, can eventually
be turned into a hard currency, can be as simple or technically
challenging as the membership can handle, can be done mostly from your
couch, and can grow and shrink dynamically without people losing their
previous contribution… here is what i came up (the project itself is
actually less important than to show how powerful OKS systems are for
giving birth to new self-sustaining "for wealth" communities):
 
OKS system for healthcare: Round A:
 
who wants to build the world's largest Patent Portfolio of antibiotic
bacteriophages? huge income potential from selling antibiotic
treatments all over the world to local franchise producers. since
bacteria always evolve resistance to antibiotics we will always have
clients (even in 500 years), since our antibiotic bacteriophages are
alive and will evolve to destroy the new bacteria. bacteriophages are
already used to kill bacteria on food, FDA approval is relatively
easy. no experience necessary. all positions are open. all hard
tasks are outsourced to labs and hospitals around the world so no
excuses.
 
within 7 days whoever steps forward at this round will be part of the
company/foundation/community. to show interest please provide a list
of skills you would like to contribute, and the percent of Round A
shares you require to join.
 
OKS system for healthcare: Round B:
 
when Round A members have no resources to outsource or handle the
needed next steps a Round B will open. Round B is full of detailed
tasks that are open for subscription. In Round B everyone needs to
provide a list of skills again and submit a bid for what percentage of
the Round B shares they want.
 
Rounds C, D, E , F, etc. follow Round B procedures.
 
this goes on until incoming resources are balanced with the needs of a
self-sustained community of members that run the world's most
important center that is called when any hospital has an outbreak of
antibiotic resistant bacteria. Metacurrency should be the shares at
each round and some voting mechanism to see what each rounds' shares
can be monetized for, from the incoming resource stream.
 
here is the video to catch up on the idea:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/phages-the-virus-that-cures/
 
the point is that the project isnt as critical as finding a role you
like (actually enjoy, according to this breakthrough thinking:
http://www.totalengagement.org/chapter1.html ) for a cause you can
agree with.
 
As an aside, I actually have some great connections into the
government of the country in the movie so i could get invitations for
collaboration with the leading bacteriophage teams there.
 
This is the type of approach i would take, because its easier to
decide all of our questions and clarify our beliefs within the CONTEXT
of actually trying to deliver a creation of our efforts to the world.
 
Regards,tudor

 

"cjenscook@googlemail.com" <cjenscook@googlemail.com> Mar 16 07:25PM -0700 ^


 
Sam
 
You might try using an LLC as a 'Capital Partnership' framework as
outlined here.
 
http://www.slideshare.net/ChrisJCook/social-investment-mechanism-12-03-09
 
and here
 
http://www.policyinnovations.org/ideas/innovations/data/000085
 
Best Regards
 
Chris Cook